Comments on: social usability http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability preparation for perfection Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:27:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Jeremy http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-244 Jeremy Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:25:44 +0000 http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-244 wow,.. great post! I love how you talk about the conversation of design. Very important, and so exciting. I still think about the conversation that Dave and I had about delicious, and how the navigation on their site, is the links/bookmarks that people post. And that it reduces the amount of frivilous design on the site to a minimum. Just the idea of it has made me pay closer attention to every thing I am putting on a page, or even in a email. I really believe focusing in on the teaching that occurs through our designs, and how the user learns to manage their own information as a result of using services like delicious. I have been using magnolia and delicious both, through <a href="http://www.onlywire.com/" title="try out onlywire" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlywire.com/</a>. Get the best of both worlds..? I guess I just didnt want to miss either boat.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> wow,.. great post! I love how you talk about the conversation of design. Very important, and so exciting.
I still think about the conversation that Dave and I had about delicious, and how the navigation on their site, is the links/bookmarks that people post. And that it reduces the amount of frivilous design on the site to a minimum. Just the idea of it has made me pay closer attention to every thing I am putting on a page, or even in a email. I really believe focusing in on the teaching that occurs through our designs, and how the user learns to manage their own information as a result of using services like delicious.
I have been using magnolia and delicious both, through http://www.onlywire.com/. Get the best of both worlds..? I guess I just didnt want to miss either boat.

]]> By: David http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-233 David Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:15:14 +0000 http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-233 Gotcha. Yeah, that makes sense. I agree that Magnolia is more social, and I do like it for that. However, being more anti-social myself, I'm much more drawn to Delicious. ;) Magnolia is a really nice site, and there's a lot of things I like about it. But, when it comes to my bookmarking needs, it just doesn't cut it.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> Gotcha. Yeah, that makes sense. I agree that Magnolia is more social, and I do like it for that. However, being more anti-social myself, I’m much more drawn to Delicious. ;) Magnolia is a really nice site, and there’s a lot of things I like about it. But, when it comes to my bookmarking needs, it just doesn’t cut it.

]]> By: clint http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-232 clint Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:19:05 +0000 http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-232 My intention in the comparison was to say that these two apps not only provide "social" services, but that they are social in themselves by how they communicate to their users. I think that Magnolia is more about being social, and Delicious more about bookmarking. Magnolia fills the space with themselves and their identity and what they are bringing visually to the table. Delicious is more at the heart of what a bookmarking application is about, the bookmark. They speak less about themselves visually and in turn give the user the floor. What I didn't want to do was a feature by feature blow and comparison about why I like one app over the other. I like them both, I happen to use Magnolia more right now because I wanted to get a full experience out of it, and what I'm getting out of it is what I wrote about. I think Magnolia is more focused on design than it is usability. The good thing about Magnolia is that its new and I'm sure will continue to refine itself. I'll continue to build up my Delicious library and my Magnolia, each have their benefits, and as of this writing I haven't found the ONE bookmarking app for me, in terms of organization and sanity I would love to have one app that did it all, and <em>all</em> not in the sense of a ton of features, but all that I want it to do.<!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> My intention in the comparison was to say that these two apps not only provide “social” services, but that they are social in themselves by how they communicate to their users. I think that Magnolia is more about being social, and Delicious more about bookmarking. Magnolia fills the space with themselves and their identity and what they are bringing visually to the table. Delicious is more at the heart of what a bookmarking application is about, the bookmark. They speak less about themselves visually and in turn give the user the floor.

What I didn’t want to do was a feature by feature blow and comparison about why I like one app over the other. I like them both, I happen to use Magnolia more right now because I wanted to get a full experience out of it, and what I’m getting out of it is what I wrote about. I think Magnolia is more focused on design than it is usability.

The good thing about Magnolia is that its new and I’m sure will continue to refine itself.

I’ll continue to build up my Delicious library and my Magnolia, each have their benefits, and as of this writing I haven’t found the ONE bookmarking app for me, in terms of organization and sanity I would love to have one app that did it all, and all not in the sense of a ton of features, but all that I want it to do.

]]> By: David http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-231 David Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:28:28 +0000 http://aenonfiredesign.com/blog/social-usability#comment-231 <sarcasm>What??? <em>Designers</em> getting so caught up in Happy Happy Design-Land that we can't actually do our jobs? *gasp* Never!</sarcasm> Nice write-up, and good observations. However, you still didn't answer my original question of whether or not you've been liking Magnolia. This article makes it sound like you prefer Delicious, but I know you use Magnolia more. You made some excellent observations here about design in a broader sense, and about applying that to our own work... But nothing about which you think works better. I have my own opinions, and was looking forward to a discussion about that.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> <sarcasm>What??? Designers getting so caught up in Happy Happy Design-Land that we can’t actually do our jobs? *gasp* Never!</sarcasm>

Nice write-up, and good observations. However, you still didn’t answer my original question of whether or not you’ve been liking Magnolia. This article makes it sound like you prefer Delicious, but I know you use Magnolia more. You made some excellent observations here about design in a broader sense, and about applying that to our own work… But nothing about which you think works better. I have my own opinions, and was looking forward to a discussion about that.

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